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Tuesday, May 15, 2007

Boo Hoo?

Oh.. Boo Hoo.. That mean Lesley Stahl hurt the wittle twade organization’s wittle feewings…

Or so went the National Association of Realtors (NAR) sad, feeble smokescreen of a response to last Sunday’s 60 Minutes segment.

Well before you get all teary, let me remind you that the National Association of Realtors is not only Americas largest trade organization but also the most wealthy and influential Political Action Committee (PAC).

As such, they are routinely called to Capitol Hill to provide “important” testimony as well as certainly calling upon on our representatives (at least the ones they supported with campaign donations) to apply the best influence that money can buy.

Stated plainly, the NAR is far more powerful than any individual American using their campaign contributions and ongoing lobbying to virtually ensure that their interests are represented well in excess of the average consumers.

What happens if there is conflict between what would be in the best interest of the American consumer and what would be in the best interest of the NAR?

Ill let you decide.

The 60 Minutes segment merely stated the obvious, questioning the sense of the traditional 6% broker commission as well as pointing out that in the age of the Internet, the traditional real estate broker services are going the way of the buggy whip.

There were no new revelations in the segment as these are the very same issues many average consumers have asked themselves in recent years after seeing the obvious disconnect between the standard 6% commission Realtors have established and the actual work performed.

Yes, it’s true that, as NAR states, commissions are always negotiable and in fact average more like 5.1% nationally but one should use caution before jumping to the conclusion that Realtor commissions represent a free and efficient market.

The reality is that NAR has worked to prevent competition from limited service brokers who would otherwise charge minimal flat fees or commissions at or below 4% in exchange for services that generally assist sellers in listing their home with the MLS as well as providing a range of other Internet based marketing efforts.

Keep in mind that this attempt to stifle competition is really an attempt to prevent technology from doing what it does best, that is, bringing new and innovative services to the market that dramatically increase the efficiency of existing processes.

As we know very well, this efficiency is often translated to savings in the cost involved of a particular process which can be passed on to the consumer through free and unfettered competition.

Therein lies the real issue for the NAR.

The Mother of all “disruptive” technologies, namely the Internet, is bearing down on the NAR and instead of embracing the change and innovating, they are fighting it tooth and nail in an effort to maintain the status of the traditional full service broker model.

This is certainly NOT in the best interest of the consumer but is this really in the best interest of the association members?

You brokers out there ought to ask yourselves what services you have found to be most impressive recently.

The schlocky listing sites hosted by many full service agencies or the innovative services such as Zillow.com, ZipRealty.com, and Redfin.com.

Remember, it’s your future that is in flux here.

You can either choose to join the trend that will inevitably yield a host of new services and models for transacting the business of real estate, or fight it and likely be left behind in an ever dwindling cohort of “old timers” attempting to provide defunct services.

The complete 60 Minutes segment as well as Lesley Stahl’s post-segment Q&A can be viewed now on BNN!

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12 Comments:

  • I saw the NAR's reaction earlier and it made me fell so warm and fuzzy inside to know that got under the NAR's skin.

    Next on NAR's whining list, "How Bubble Bloggers caused the destruction of housing"

    By Blogger Kevin, at 1:04 PM  

  • What I think is funny is your reaction to a slanted piece on 60 minutes. I guess if 60 Minutes said the Brooklyn Bridge was for sale you would believe it too.(Better yet you would probably say that's not fair boo hoo its on the MLS)

    By Blogger Seth Winkleman, at 1:38 PM  

  • Seth, I don't think that this blog's author had the sudden revelation that Realtors(TM) are increasingly obsolete just because 60 Minutes said it was so. This has been a common and growing meme on blogs such as this for quite some time. It's good to see that the mainstream media is starting to clue in.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 2:02 PM  

  • To monsieur Anonymous


    60 Minutes Segment on Real Estate Biased: Industry Responds
    RISMEDIA, May 15, 2007-The real estate segment featuring Redfin that aired Sunday on 60 Minutes sparked widespread reaction yesterday throughout the industry, especially on industry blogs.

    The piece, reported by 60 Minutes correspondent Lesley Stahl, focused on how the Internet is changing the real estate business by highlighting Seattle-based discount broker Redfin and its founder Glen Kelman.

    Kelman stated the real estate industry "is the most screwed up industry in America, and we feel like things that Amazon or eBay or Yahoo have done of other industries, we can do for the real estate industry."

    But according to many industry blogs buzzing today with commentary on the piece, agents who work for traditional real estate brokerages, disagree.

    One blogger, Jonathan Dalton of Century 21 Arizona Foothills and Dalton's Arizona Homes, wrote, "In light of Sunday's 60 Minutes piece - shedding light on the real estate industry, if you believe the Inman news hype, or simply glorifying rebate-model proponents such as Redfin - in which Redfin's Glenn Kelman [was] featured, the question becomes how much time is spent discussing industry reaction (or lack thereof) to the bill of rights publicity stunt. And if any, it will be even more interesting to hear Kelman explain the yawning of the REIC."

    RISMedia Publisher and CEO John Featherston, also supported traditional brokerage in his commentary on the segment.

    "The expose by 60 Minutes on Redfin was a classic example of how a mainstream journalist who has no real understanding of the real estate industry, portrays the effectiveness and the efficiency of our industry," Featherston said. "We are a popular target for the media. It is misinforming consumers about the reality of Realtor commissions to say that the 6% commission is ‘sacrosanct.' It is known in our industry that on a national average, commissions have come down to 5.2 percent. This misleads consumers into thinking that all their Realtor does is list their property-or only does ‘four hours worth of work' as the former traditional agent in the piece noted-and they walk away with thousands of dollars for doing nothing. This is a gross misrepresentation of the work Realtors do for their clients to increase the value of their homes and justify their commissions."

    Featherston noted that discount brokerages and new business models are important players in the industry and should have a place in the industry, but that the consumer shouldn't confuse the value of a full service Realtor with what a discount brokerage offers.

    NAR responded to the piece with a statement on its Web site, Realtor.org. The associations cited several errors in the segment and stated while it had prepared and offered spokespersons for the story, 60 Minutes decided not to interview anyone from the organization.

    The statment read, in part: "The CBS show 60 Minutes gave the NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF REALTORS® the empty chair treatment in a May 13 segment that examined the impact of online brokerages on the real estate industry. The show featured interviews with a representative from the now-defunct eRealty and the president and CEO of Redfin, but no one from NAR, even though NAR twice offered and prepared Association spokespersons for interviews with Leslie Stahl. It was CBS that made the decision it would rather interview our opponents and let them make unanswered — and inaccurate and unfair — accusations about REALTORS® and NAR policies.

    "The one-sided journalism and egregious errors served no one well, especially the once-vaunted news magazine show. NAR staff spent nearly a year working with CBS, briefing producers on the issues involved. The producers attended the REALTORS® Conference in New Orleans and met with NAR's legal counsel for half a day in Chicago. Yet, still the segment was full of major errors."

    To read the full statement and the list of factual errors NAR reports aired in the story, visit: http://www.realtor.org/about_nar/NARRespondsToSixtyMinutes.html.

    Featherston, supported NAR's statement, adding, "It's typical of 60 Minutes to choose a spokesperson for the opposing view, who is ill-equipped to respond to the interviewer's questions. The interviewer features the founder of Redfin, who of course is well prepared to promote his business. Then they feature the counterpoint from a local Realtor, who may be a seasoned professional when it comes to listing and selling homes, but who may not be completely prepared to respond to statements by Stahl like, ‘Redfin very proudly says that they returned in rebates $3 million last year to its buyers. You can't boast of anything like that."

    (The agent, Deborah Arends, a RE/MAX agent for over 18 years, responded, "Absolutely not. I don't know how to answer that one.")

    "What needs to be pointed out there," Featherston continued, was, ‘No I don't give money back, but I help my clients sell their homes for more money, thereby putting more money in their pockets than a discount broker. I'm helping maximize the value of their home. Of course Redfin is willing to give money back to the customer because they're not owed the money in the first place. The Realtor's marketing, negotiating skills, and reach into the market is the experience the seller is paying for and that will ultimately put more money in the seller's pocket."

    Kelman had stated that while Redfin refunds two-thirds of its commission back to buyers, they make their money by enabling their agents to transact as many closings in one week as some traditional agents close in one year, through their model and technology.

    But while Stahl commented on how easy Redfin makes searching for a house on its Web site, she reported, "there's no way to independently check the number of deals his agents close in a week," she added.

    It appears this debate will continue for the foreseeable future.

    By Blogger Seth Winkleman, at 2:14 PM  

  • Here are some examples of the misinformation:
    Error: The six percent commission is "sacrosanct."
    Fact: All commissions are negotiable. The average commission rate is not 6 percent, but 5.1 percent, according to Real Trends.

    Error: NAR is the industry's "governing body."
    Fact: NAR is a trade association. It does not govern the industry.

    Error: In 2003, NAR issued new rules of its own that threatened to block Internet discounters' access to the MLS.
    Fact: The Virtual Office Website policy did not block access to MLSs for discounters or any other brokers who are members of the MLS.

    Error: The MLS is the database that lists virtually every home for sale in the country.
    Fact: There is no single national MLS. Rather, there are more than 900 local and regional multiple listing services. These are not simply "databases" but private exchange of offers of cooperation and compensation between real estate brokers.

    Error: Eight states have "minimum service laws" that require REALTORS® to provide a level of service many Internet discounters can't afford.
    Fact: "REALTOR®" is a trademarked term and should never be used synonymously with "real estate agent." The intent of minimum service laws is to ensure consumers receive a minimal level of service from licensees.

    Error: The brokerage industry has a powerful lobby. Eleven states flatly prohibit rebates.
    Fact: The intent of anti-rebate laws is to prevent kickbacks in real estate transactions, not to limit brokers' incentives to attract customers. The brokerage industry does not lobby for anti-rebate laws.

    Other key points 60 Minutes misrepresented or overlooked:
    NAR supports all business models and favors none. Our 1.3 million members include REALTORS® who work on a full-service basis, as well as those who consider themselves to be limited service, fee-for-service, minimum service, and discounters. We think it's great that consumers have a choice today.
    The real estate industry has harnessed technology for the benefit of consumers and will continue to do so. Real estate is both high-tech and high-touch, so can be enhanced by both electronic and personal interaction.
    There is no such thing as a "standard commission." Commissions are negotiable and prices vary. The fact is that commission rates have decreased 16 percent from 1991 to 2004 (source: Real Trends).
    The real estate business is unique in that competitors must also cooperate with each other to ensure a successful transaction, and MLS systems facilitate that cooperation. The first MLS was created more than 100 years ago as way for brokers to share their listing agreements with each another in hopes of procuring buyers for their properties more quickly and efficiently than they could on their own.
    The MLS is a tool to help listing brokers find cooperative buyer brokers to help sell their clients' homes. Without the collaborative incentive of the existing MLS, brokers would create their own separate systems, fragmenting rather than consolidating property information.

    By Blogger Seth Winkleman, at 2:16 PM  

  • That reminds me -- how is the DOJ antitrust suit going?

    By Blogger sc in dc, at 3:28 PM  

  • Seth,

    Good one... yes Brooklyn Bridge... I'm sure I'd be sucked right in.

    As for the "slanted" 60 Minutes piece, I checked out your blog and Realtor site, you look like a smart guy (sort of)… Why don't you, instead of leaving foolish snarky remarks, attempt to educate me and other readers as to why the services a traditional full service Realtor provides are important and moreover worth an average of 5.1% of a homes selling price.

    Also, no need to include any lengthy NAR propaganda as I've likely already linked and/or spotlighting their distortions in my original post…

    What I would prefer is that you compose a legitimate and thoughtful response to the original post.

    By Blogger SoldAtTheTop, at 3:37 PM  

  • Real Estate Agents are the modern day version of an 80's Stock Broker.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 5:22 PM  

  • Seth, Your survival obviously must be tied to the real estate industry. So you probably think it's normal to have to pay someone 30K when you sell your 500K home. Yep, makes perfect sense.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 5:29 AM  

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